Comments on: Busting Hair Conditioner Myths: Build-Up, Silicones, Weighing Hair Down etc. https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/ The science of beauty, explained simply Tue, 07 Mar 2023 03:25:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Michelle https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-264398 Tue, 07 Mar 2023 03:25:12 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-264398 In reply to Jill.

I have one here: https://labmuffin.com/silicone-mythbusting-with-video/

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By: Jill https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-263867 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 13:10:30 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-263867 Can you make a post about silicones? Some say they are biodegradeable, some say they are not. Some say they are inert, some say they are not. I also wonder about absorption through the skin, mucous membranes (like with lube) or in the digestive tract (lip products).

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By: N https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-223700 Wed, 01 Jun 2022 10:46:00 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-223700 Michelle, would you consider doing a detailed hair science post/ video on what kinds of ingredients and formulas benefit hair with different characteristics?

Advice for bleached or otherwise damaged hair is easy to come by but if your hair is not damaged and you’re looking for specific results, it’s hard to figure out what to use. Similarly, there are lots of products designed to increase hair volume (no weigh down) but not many to reduce volume.

To use my own hair as an example, I have thick, wiry, straight individual strands and a LOT of them. I also dye my hair with henna and indigo, which thickens it further. I need conditioners that will make my hair feel softer and more pliable, and look sleeker and less voluminous. I do a bit of trial and error but it’s mostly shooting in dark without knowing what ingredients are more likely to give me the results I’m looking for.

The selection of products to try is also small because in my country many companies have replaced parabens with MI in conditioners. This includes your sponsor here — I used one of Pantene’s conditioners in rotation with others, then they went and put MI in every single one of their products here.

Thank you for your work and I look forward to seeing more hair related posts from you!

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By: DMRC https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-190313 Wed, 05 Jan 2022 20:57:16 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-190313 Your helpful explanation of amodimethicone and bis-aminopropyl dimethicone is a start in understanding these ingredients. So a light deposit of silicone(s) from a product should be ok for fine hair. Since these would wash out easier. This is from a person who focuses on au naturale ingredients.

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By: Polished Hippy https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-139968 Tue, 24 Aug 2021 04:34:31 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-139968 So great to see a big brand promoting SCIENCE and sponsoring one of your posts, as well as providing microscope images. This his is the sort of sponsorship that unleashes the brand’s scientists, not its marketers! I have thin, limp hair, but still use silicone based serums because they are the only thing that prevents tangling and damage when my hair grows long. I wash every other day and one shampoo a week is with a more clarifying shampoo and I skip the serum to prevent buildup. I do have a question – could you cover anti-dandruff shampoos at some point? I just got one and unfortunately it does leave some buildup which ends up feeling greasy by the end of the week, and it is not specified as something for anti-frizz or thick hair or anything like that. Is it normal for anti-dandruff shampoos to have a build up of some kind? Many thanks for your informative posts!

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By: Anne https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-139940 Mon, 23 Aug 2021 18:32:16 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-139940 Seeing the thumbnail with the scissors and the hair made me so uneasy! My hair is easily damaged, so simply the thought of scraping my hair is horrifying!

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By: Mike Hodish https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-139868 Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:53:45 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-139868 In reply to Michelle.

Thanks. This is really cool. My ex was a platform artist for Clairol ~ 35 years ago, understood lots about the craft and about the business, but could never explain any of it to me on a scientific level. I appreciate this!

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By: Michelle https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-139841 Sun, 22 Aug 2021 13:33:51 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-139841 In reply to Michael Hodish.

1. Some things do cling to hair a bit more and might take a lot of washes to wash out (e.g. henna, some of the more persistent polymers), but the amount is still really tiny, as we can see from the microscope images. There are also other studies which have weighed hair after treatments – it’s clear there isn’t any layer of wax that forms that would give a huge amount of shavings. Someone also commented that they tried this on their baby nephew’s hair which has never had conditioner on it, and it also produced shavings.

2. I was going against the cuticle but it works going with as well (it actually ended up working a bit worse with the silicone because it was slippery!)

3. Could be from using the wrong product for their hair type (too much lipid will stick strands together), or perhaps friction or static? Could also be geometric with the shape of the strands.

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By: CarolAnnf https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-139755 Sat, 21 Aug 2021 21:40:26 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-139755 Throw curly hair into the mix and this is even more complicated!

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By: Dove https://labmuffin.com/busting-hair-conditioner-myths-build-up-silicones-weighing-hair-down-etc/#comment-139670 Sat, 21 Aug 2021 06:36:54 +0000 https://labmuffin.com/?p=11529#comment-139670 Great post Michelle! I’m a Materials Science PhD student by day and have recently fallen into the skincare rabbit hole. I love your approach and how you bring real science into these explaining these products. I’ve learned quite a bit! And in this post I feel a little more comfortable seeing SEM micrographs. 🙂

I was wondering if you’ve ever done a post on the “No Poo or Low Poo” trend where people stop (or at least minimize) washing their hair with shampoo. I couldn’t find any using the search function on your site but was curious—is this based on anything real? Can it work for some hair types? Or is it all just a backlash against nebulous “chemicals” like aluminum in deodorant? (loved that post too) Of course, I’d love to save money and never buy shampoo again… but braving greasy, lank locks for months ain’t it, especially if it doesn’t even work!

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